EPISODE 355: What I Saw in a Room of High Achieving Women (And Why Strategy Alone Won’t Save You)

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Lisa
You built success that looks damn good on the outside, but inside it's costing you your health, your relationships, your energy. And no matter how much you do, it never feels like enough. Welcome to Congruent. I'm Lisa Carpenter, the coach. High performers call when they can afford to burn it all down, but they can't keep living like this either.

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Lisa
Here we rip off the mask of success and expose what's real. The patterns that you keep running, the price that you've paid, and how to build success that fuels you instead of empties you. Real success is agency. It's powerful self leadership to run your life instead of being run by it. To let your drive and your well-being finally work together.

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Lisa
Because the real win is success. That actually feels good.

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Lisa
Hey, hey, and welcome to congruent. I am excited today to share a recent experience of mine. I'm actually sitting here on a beautiful Sunday afternoon and I am still unpacking what happened for me. Inside of a room of 55 of the most absolutely phenomenal women I've ever had the pleasure of sharing space with. So I was off in Burlington, which apparently is part of Toronto, but people who live in Toronto don't call it Toronto.

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Lisa
I don't quite understand, but Toronto is a giant place. Saying you're going to Toronto is like saying you're coming to B.C. it is so spread out. So, massive. So here we are in Burlington, on the edge of one of the beautiful Great Lakes, Lake Ontario. And I am standing in this room, like I said, filled with 55 of the most extraordinary women I've ever met.

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Lisa
And these are women that are running an impressive six and seven figure businesses. They are, you know, they're running teams, they've got systems, they've got strategies, and most of them are doing it on their own, meaning that they are they are the founders. They are the founders of these companies. I'm not talking about corporate women. I'm talking about women who pulled up their bootstraps and decided that they wanted to create something in the world for themselves and for other people and entrepreneurs.

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Lisa
I mean, we are, we are a special breed. Now, I was in the room because this I am part of a group because I wanted to uplevel my CEO skills. So as somebody who started her business really not knowing I was starting a business. And here, you know, decades later, I'm like, wow, look at what I've built.

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Lisa
Absolutely by accident. I want to move out of that space of being just really great at my craft, but also an amazing CEO and businesswoman. And this started for me quite a number of years ago, where I really started focusing on my own CEO skills, because as a as a high level coach, I've gotten very, very, good at what I do.

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Lisa
I'm one of the best at what I do and how I support my clients, and I don't feel as skilled when it comes to reading panels and, you know, all the business jargon. That's just it's not my background. So being in this room right out of the gate is a stretch for me, because I've had to really step into my identity of being able to belong in this room that I know more than I think I know, which has been really interesting, because that's what I've really discovered about myself.

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Lisa
For all that poopoo pooing I've been doing on, my business acumen, none of it is true. These are all stories I'm telling myself based on how I'm measuring myself against what I think CEOs operate like. And in being in this room with these women, I realized we're really all in the same boat. We're all just trying to figure it out and nobody really has their shit together.

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Lisa
So if you are listening to me thinking that you can't get into rooms until you no more, that is the prove or archetype showing up, making you believe, or wanting you to believe that you need to know more, have more, accomplished more before you can step into these rooms. And a big part of overcoming these parts of ourselves is to step into the room and, and then start to dismantle these patterns.

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Lisa
So I was there in part to learn for my business, to really see the systems and strategies that I can put into place to support my growth. But I was also there to be part of a panel to speak on the cost of not making decisions, which we often look at the cost of making decisions, but many of us don't actually look at the cost of not making decisions.

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Lisa
Now, I was on the panel specifically to to speak to the cost of not making decisions when it comes to us personally, our physical and our emotional well-being and and how that impacts our businesses, our family, all of the things. And, so we can talk about, you know, how how not making decisions in our business is going to impact our business.

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Lisa
But many people don't actually look at what happens if I don't make decisions in regards to myself, and how is that going to impact the outcomes that I want to create in my business. So this was a big deal for me. And if you've been hanging out for any amount of time, you'll know that for me, speaking in front of a live audience is definitely an edge for me.

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Lisa
I have no problem being in front of hundreds, thousands of people in a zoom room. But you put me in front of a live audience and something happens inside my body. And this is this is something that I have been continuing to work on for a while now. And you'll know that you know this work when we when we discover these stories that we're telling ourselves about ourselves, we can talk about them till the cows come home.

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Lisa
But ultimately, once we have the awareness of what is happening for us, then it's about having the courage to take action in a different direction to support the outcome that we do want. So when I was asked to speak at this panel, I said yes before I could chicken out and say no, which has served me really well in my life.

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Lisa
I have said yes to things before I could back out because I knew that if I paused and if I got into overthinking that, I would talk myself out of it. Done this over and over and over again. It's a it's a strategy that works for me, because I also know that as a committed person, that once I commit to something, I'm going to follow through.

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Lisa
It is so, so, so rare for me to back out on commitments that I make because that then would bump up against my high value around integrity. So here I am in this room and, watching all these people work on their strategies and our structures and our business. And I am also there to navigate a moment of massive personal growth for myself.

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Lisa
And as much as I wanted to deliver an amazing, you know, amazing talk, it was really about, can I stay grounded in my body? Can I stay present to what I'm experiencing in this moment? And can I walk off that, you know, stage will call it a stage. It was just the front of the room. But can I walk off that stage and just allow myself to feel proud without getting into questioning and overthinking what I said?

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Lisa
Could I have said something different? And this is what I'm sharing this because this is what it looks like to dismantle the success paradox in real time. So I want to talk first about what the room was there to do. So this conference was set up to really diagnose what was going on in our business. It was meant to find gaps in our structures so that we could figure out what decisions we needed to make so that the business can hold itself.

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Lisa
And this is really important because the room was filled with high achieving women, and high achieving women tend to be the high functionaries or over functions. They also tend to be overly responsible, so they hold everything themselves. And most of them don't even realize that holding everything themselves is a coping pattern that they've gotten into as a way to survive when they were younger, but they don't necessarily need to do it when they're older, but they keep running this same pattern.

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Lisa
So when we look at our businesses, it's filling the gaps in the structure so the business can actually hold itself without without the owner or the founder having to continue to carry that responsibility. So it was a really deep dive diagnostic that took a lot of self, reflection and radical self honesty to really identify what was going on in all these key elements within our business.

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Lisa
And strategy is really important. Structure is really important within a business, because that is the thing that's going to allow the founder to step back and actually do more of the things that she or he wants to in the world. So we were focusing on systems, operating models, delegation, team design, all of it very, very real and very, very necessary.

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Lisa
But what I wanted to talk about in part in this episode is that I think that we can get trapped in this either or, thinking that we either have to work on strategies and systems, or we've got the people who are only working on self-development and identity work around who they're being. And I am a big believer that it's both and that not one trumps the other, because I also know that the systems and strategies that people are setting up are only as good as the being like you, who is doing the doing.

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Lisa
So if you are resisting systems and strategies, it's not because the systems and strategies don't work, it's because somewhere in you those systems and strategies or setting them up might look like a threat. Which sounds really odd, but this is the truth. So systems matter, but they're not enough on their own. And being in this room made this evident.

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Lisa
Like everybody in there needed to do this diagnostic, including me. And I've done a tremendous amount of work on myself. It was really eye opening to see where I was telling myself certain stories about my business and what the actual diagnostic showed me that needed to change. So, what I saw, though, in this room is that so many of these women are so focused on the systems and strategies, they've never actually stop long enough to ask if the patterns they're running, as they're growing, their businesses are actually working for them or working against them.

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Lisa
And I'm going to get into what I actually saw in this room. So one of the things, one of the things, and this is so common for all high achievers and I talked about this from the front of the room is commitment. They commit to so many things. Oh my gosh, they're committed to so many things. Which means they're actually committed to nothing because you cannot be like 99% committed to something.

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Lisa
It just won't get done. You're not going to see the results or the outcome you want. You're either 100% committed or you're not committed at all. But the problem with with being 100% committed means that it requires you to commit to less, to really get intentional about what is the most important thing I do. So within the day, the diagnostic that we were doing, it also required you to look at what is the most important thing, like what is the one thing in this whole diagnostic that if I move the needle on, that is going to have the biggest impact on my business structure.

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Lisa
And what happens over and over again is my machine archetype. They want to go into productivity. They want to do all the things all at once. They think more is better, but they end up spinning their wheels and they don't actually fill those gaps that the diagnostic was meant to fill. And this is where, you know, slowing down, doing less so that you can accomplish more really comes in.

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Lisa
But that that bumps right up against that machine, the machine archetype. And if you don't know which archetypes I'm talking about, make sure you go over to Lisa Carpenter, aka four slash quiz and take my success Paradox quiz, because then you will understand what I'm speaking to. The machine is always going to want to do more. And that comes from an internal operating system, your internal identity that was built when you were really, really young.

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Lisa
But it's going to keep you on the hamster wheel, and you're going to be telling yourself that you're filling these gaps, but you won't actually ever follow through on 100% filling those gaps, because you cannot fill all the gaps at once. You have to pick one thing, even me. I came back and I'm like, oh, I got a laundry list of things that I want to fix and change and do in my business.

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Lisa
But I'm like, what is the most important thing? They said, that's the one we're going to be committed to. And that is the, you know, as my coach would say, that's the build out that we're going to focus on and being comfortable with just doing that one thing to really move the needle forward in my business. So when we're overcommitted, when we commit to too many things, we just we can't be in in integrity with any of it.

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Lisa
That is the bottom line. So in that room.

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Lisa
I see these patterns all the time. I see these patterns all the time. And so many of these patterns, I've had to work through myself and continue to work through on a day to day basis. You know, this, this curiosity about myself and the reason I do the things that I do. It's just for me, it's such a way of being like, it's a high value of mine to be curious.

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Lisa
And, personal growth is just such a, such a powerful value for me. I will never stop growing. I think that I am very interesting as I peel back the layers, just as I see that my clients are super, super interesting. So I wanted to walk through kind of what I saw and what I witnessed in that room by the different archetypes that I put people into, because I think that this is powerful for you to understand, that it doesn't matter what level of success you're at, where you're at in your business or in your life.

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Lisa
These are the type of things that show up over and over and over again. And when you start to learn to master your archetypes, the archetypes that are driving you, this is where we move from high achievement into high performance. This is where we can learn to commit to less, to achieve more. This is where we can start to value rest.

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Lisa
This is where we can go do the doing without having a million things to do. This is where we can we can really anchor into what it is we want, not based on what we need to prove to anybody else. But, you know, it's coming from a true place of like, oh, I really desire this. This is something that I want for me.

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Lisa
So let's go into the archetypes. So with the machine archetype, what I saw in that room is women holding on to all the responsibilities, because letting go often feels like a loss of control. It requires that you trust other people to get the job done, that things are going to move forward in the way that you want them to.

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Lisa
And productivity is such a huge part of the machine's identity. They truly believe that if they loosen their grip, things are going to fall apart. So they stay tight and they stay on all the time and they're constantly in motion. And there were a lot of women in this room who had softened and worked around this, and they really saw what it was costing them to hold everything and what it was going to look like for them to start to hand things over, and staying vigilant about allowing their team to go do their work.

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Lisa
So for them, it's about stepping into more leadership and trusting that other people are going to get the work done so they can slow down a little bit. Now, what ends up hooking the machine, though, is they typically will get things off their plate, so they start to loosen their grip to give things to other people, and then they just go find other ways to get busy.

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Lisa
So so they've they've cleared space, but that empty space, now that other people are supporting them, they work really hard to fill it back up. So this is where the machine we want to start looking at what is actually driving that and allowing you to be with the discomfort of having space and feeling safe. With that space, you're allowed to have a team that's working for you, and you can take some time for yourself.

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Lisa
And oftentimes guilt comes up for people when they pass things over, like, who am I to take more time off while everybody else is working so hard for me? Well, that's what you get when you're the boss. Like you, actually. You take all the risk, which means you take the lion's share of the reward so you don't have to work harder just to prove to your team that you're doing your job.

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Lisa
Okay. So the prover is all about building more, chasing more, acquiring more. But I was really curious how many people in that room, when was the last time they stopped to ask themselves, what do I want? Am I still building? What I want? Is this version of what I'm building for me, or is it for somebody else? So where this was really showing up in the room, we had a lot of talk about investing and the cost of not investing.

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Lisa
Right. So if we're if something's going to cost us, say, $10,000 to invest in, if we hold on to that money, what is that money going to cost us? Because if we invest $10,000 and it generates $50,000, if we hold on to the $10,000, we're actually losing money. Okay. So we were talking about how often, female founders will hold onto money instead of putting it out into the world to work for us.

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Lisa
And this is important even when you're looking at investing in a coach or anything. It's like, what? What does it cost you to not invest if you stay in the same place? Versus what is the ROI? What is that worth to you on the other side? So the prover ends up staying in this scarcity loop. They're holding tightly on to money because they're trying to feel safe.

00:19:06:05 - 00:19:38:21
Lisa
And safety isn't created with money. Safety comes from the inside. Safety is knowing that you have your own back. But when you're hoarding money as a way to feel safe, you're actually constantly putting yourself in a place of not feeling safe because there's never really enough money that's going to create that safety for you. So you avoid actually, you avoid doing the things that are are going to create safety for you, which is the trust, the trust that you can build within yourself to create your life.

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Lisa
So there's nothing wrong with wanting more. There's nothing wrong with wanting more. There's nothing wrong with big audacious goals or growing a bigger business. Or what would it take to for me to get to here? But it's also looking at what is it that I truly want, what am I really trying to build? What am I really chasing?

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Lisa
Because achievers are always chasing something. Where's performers are moving towards something that they want and the energy is very, very different. So the polisher.

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Lisa
Sets standards that are so high that nothing ever feels finished. Nothing ever feels good enough already. It's the details are kill them and they loop this into like, well, this is what excellence look looks like, but it turns into just this form of procrastination. And so even in doing the business assessment, it's like it's a diagnostic tool to give you an indication of where the holes need to be filled.

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Lisa
But we can go so deep into diagnostic that we don't actually take any action. And then you can beat yourself up. What you see is people beating themselves up because why weren't they better yet, why weren't they there yet? Why was this still a problem? And then the last our type is the giver, which I really saw it show up in the room a lot.

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Lisa
So between the machine and the giver, this, this taking care of our family, our team, our clients, which it's important that we take care of those people. But there was so much emphasis on all of those people and things, and there was not enough emphasis on, well, what am I doing to take care of myself? They put themselves last without complaint, and they do not value themselves as much as they value their business.

00:21:37:05 - 00:21:58:27
Lisa
So it doesn't matter if your business is thriving. If you're not, your family doesn't care if your health goes down the drain. It doesn't matter. The business won't run if you if you can't show up and be in the business. And I talked a lot about this, saying that I use all the time that things we love and we value, we take care of.

00:21:58:27 - 00:22:23:03
Lisa
And what I saw in that room was a lot of women who pour everything into their business, and they get the scraps, like they get the leftover scraps, yet they are the ones holding so much for the business. And if they go down, what would happen to their business? So it's really, really important that we don't quietly disappear in the process of building our businesses.

00:22:23:03 - 00:22:56:10
Lisa
We are responsible for ourselves, for showing up for ourselves because the business needs us, and what the business provides for needs us to show up. Family, friends, clients, staff. Right. So self leadership and, and high performance demands that we come into our business as the best version of ourselves. And it's it's socially rewarded and accepted, especially in women because we've been trained like we're doing this work because of X, Y, and Z.

00:22:56:12 - 00:23:25:02
Lisa
We've been trained to take care of everybody else in every everything else but ourselves. But this, like the giver archetype, is so exhausting because there's always so much pressure on the individual to take care of everything and be responsible for everybody. And there's there's never enough time in the day for us, or there's this guilt that comes from putting yourself, putting yourself first.

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Lisa
Right? Putting yourself first doesn't mean that you're pulling on everybody else. It means you actually have more to give to everybody else, more to give to your business. I don't want to show up in my business tapped out. I want to show up in my business fully energized so I can give 100%. I want to give 50%. But when we're giving to everybody else, we cannot give like we cannot give to others from a full bucket.

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Lisa
So, I saw so much of myself in that room. It was really, really so fascinating for me because I was working through some of my own archetypes, like in the moment. So as so many people were dialed into the details and we did one exercise where we had to, you know, do a monetary calculation, and I gave a round number and I got called out on the round number and I was like, listen, like, this is a this is I'm not trying to get it perfect here.

00:24:21:13 - 00:24:52:01
Lisa
This is roughly where I'm going to land in terms of, you know, the cost. It was a you know, what would we if we invested a certain amount of money, what would the ROI be on that? And I gave a round number and I said, like, I am past like perfectionism. So the polisher in me wanting to get it right, you know, as I was sitting at the front of the room and talking on this panel, I really noticed myself wanting to say like the right things, and I had to just lean back and say, Lisa, like, we cannot be in this prover archetype.

00:24:52:03 - 00:25:13:14
Lisa
You need to stand here. You need to own your authority, trust what is going to come out of your mouth, and it's going to be the right thing. And whether or not it's received, I cannot be. I I'm not in control of that. So it's can I stay authentic to who I am. And my message, which I understand in a room like that is so needed.

00:25:13:16 - 00:25:35:21
Lisa
But also I'm kind of the, unicorn in the room, so to speak, because many of these women have not gone down the path I've gone down. They have not done the level of work that I've done on myself, and they are still very much in their machine and prover and giver and polisher archetypes. So I see them through a different lens.

00:25:35:21 - 00:25:58:21
Lisa
I see them in a way they don't see themselves yet. So to just allow myself to be at the front of the room, knowing that I belonged in that room, that I didn't have to prove to be there, that I belong in that room because I choose, because I chose to be in that room. That's what made me belong and just, you know, deliver the message.

00:25:58:23 - 00:26:22:04
Lisa
So sitting with the discomfort of noticing these stories, these beliefs, these old identities, my archetypes, kind of like rumbling underneath the scenes, holding the discomfort of that, well, stepping into who I am becoming, who I want to be. I want to be the speaker in the front of the room, not just on a panel, but like fully owning the room.

00:26:22:04 - 00:26:55:26
Lisa
And I know I'm capable of that. So the only way to shift these archetypes, we can talk about them, like I said to the cows, come home, but it's actually the doing of the new behavior that is going to start to shift the behavior. So talk about this kind of like when you buy a new pair of shoes and they don't feel as good as the old pair of shoes, but if you wear them over and over and over and over again, pretty soon the old shoes won't feel very good, and the new shoes are going to feel way more comfortable when we are moving from these archetypes into congruent ways that we're working with

00:26:55:26 - 00:27:17:11
Lisa
these archetypes, we're putting on the new shoes over and over and over again, until the new way becomes the default setting. The new way is is now who you are, who who you've become. So every time I stand in front of a room and speak, I am literally saying, like, I'm anchoring this new way of being in my body.

00:27:17:14 - 00:27:49:20
Lisa
And the old identity needs to just soften back, and it continues to do that. So that's the difference between pushing through discomfort and actually holding the discomfort, being with it in a grounded place. And it was really, you know, I love these moments where I am witnessing myself in my work and living, congruent with that, because it's there's so many coaches out there that say one thing, but they're living a completely different way behind the scenes, and that will never that will never be me.

00:27:49:21 - 00:28:16:22
Lisa
So if you're listening to this and you're thinking, oh gosh, you know, maybe I need to check in on some of these things. A great place to start. A great place to start is what is it that you actually want? And is the version of you right now able to receive that? And if the answer is no, it's what needs to happen in order for you to step into that new identity.

00:28:16:25 - 00:28:42:12
Lisa
Because what I actually want the version of me from, you know, a month ago or six months ago, couldn't have couldn't have held that. But I am taking active, active action. Wow. Those words did not want to come out of my mouth to be the version of me who can receive all of that. So again, a room full of high achiever is not the same as a room full of high performers.

00:28:42:12 - 00:29:07:08
Lisa
And this is what I'm here. This is what this work is about. This is what the success paradox is about. Because I want you to feel good in your life and in your business, whatever it is you're doing as a leader. And it's it's something that most people never really sit with. So just so you have a a clear distinction between the two, high achievement is about accumulating, moving away from discomfort.

00:29:07:11 - 00:29:29:07
Lisa
It's about external results and it's about raising the bar over and over and over again, yet never feeling like you've achieved anything. So this is these patterns will run you. These archetypes will run you and listen. They work. They work until they don't, until you're exhausted and your health is gone sideways and you're looking at your life going like, what happen?

00:29:29:07 - 00:29:44:09
Lisa
I've got every like I've got the version of my life that I once upon a time prayed for. But it doesn't feel the way I thought it would feel. Whereas High performance is really about how are you going to lead yourself? Because let me tell you, to walk up to the front of that room and grab that mic.

00:29:44:15 - 00:30:07:22
Lisa
I had to lead myself. I had to notice the discomfort that was happening in my body. I had to stay grounded. I was like, we've got this, Lisa, this is who you are. We are not shrinking back. This is we are doing this with a lot of intention. And it's high performance is about being so committed to moving towards what you are choosing.

00:30:07:24 - 00:30:36:22
Lisa
Okay. So it's choosing versus an unconscious chasing. That's the that's the biggest difference between high achievement versus a high performer. High achievers are chasing and high performers are choosing with intention what they want. You get to decide whether or not the pattern is going to run you, or you're going to run it. So I notice my patterns running and I was like, I see you, I acknowledge you, and this is what we're doing moving forward.

00:30:36:25 - 00:30:58:05
Lisa
And I love these moments because when I when I stepped off of that stage, I was so proud of myself, so proud of myself. So I always assess, just like any good athlete would assess. But I didn't come off beating myself up. Why didn't I say this? Why didn't I do this? I didn't run around the room looking for external validation, and part of me wanted to.

00:30:58:08 - 00:31:30:05
Lisa
Part of me wanted people to come up and tell me that, like, that was good. That impacted me. But I had already made the decision that it didn't matter if anybody said anything, that I was going to be okay with whatever I delivered, and I was going to trust that it landed with exactly the right person that it needed to land with it, that whoever in that room needed to hear what I had to say, that they heard it, and I had to let that be enough because, like I said, otherwise it would be the my old archetype wanting external validation, running around in the room.

00:31:30:07 - 00:31:42:17
Lisa
I didn't want to do that. That's not me standing in my authority. That's not me. That's not me stepping into an elevated, version of myself. So maybe you can relate as well.

00:31:42:19 - 00:31:45:12
Lisa
So.

00:31:45:14 - 00:32:13:10
Lisa
Coming back to what this whole episode is about, write systems and structure in your business, in your life matter. But the person who is running the systems and strategies also matters. So if you're not getting the results you want, it may not be a system and strategy problem, it may be a problem. And then for me, I've done so much work on myself, I'm like, this is a systems and strategy problem.

00:32:13:10 - 00:32:38:22
Lisa
We said, you need some support stepping into to being the identity of a CEO. This is what it's going to take. So it's not either or. It's both. And when you can combine both of the work, this is when things really can take off and explode in your life and your business, your career. So again, high performance. It's not about, it's not just about doing less, it's about doing less with intention.

00:32:38:22 - 00:33:01:28
Lisa
So you create better results. It really is about leading yourself, knowing what's driving you, choosing things consciously, and being the person who can receive the results that you're building towards. So if you say you want more freedom, which is a high value of of most entrepreneurs and business owners that I know, are you actually the person that can receive the freedom when it shows up?

00:33:02:05 - 00:33:22:22
Lisa
Because most people I meet cannot because the machine is driving them so much, so many people in that room. I would say most are really, really good at achievement, but very few have stopped long enough to ask, is the life that I'm building the one I actually want? And I'm Pan? Am I willing to feel it when I get there?

00:33:22:24 - 00:33:31:04
Lisa
And very few of them. We're working from a level of high performance, and that's really what this work is about.

00:33:31:06 - 00:34:10:05
Lisa
So I'm very curious, as you're listening to this episode, which pattern did you recognize in yourself? Maybe one felt a little bit too familiar. And, you know, if you want to learn about your archetype again, go take our success paradox quiz. You're going to get a full, diagnosis diagnostic, set the right word. And then if we're going to be inviting you into a private podcast where you can go even deeper into your archetype and really like for those of you who want to know, you can dive deep into your specific archetypes along with all the other three, and you are going to find out so many things about yourself.

00:34:10:05 - 00:34:33:01
Lisa
You're going to create a new level of awareness, which then opens the door to creating the transformation that you want so that you can feel is good in your life, so that you're how you feel on the inside, feels as good as what you've built on the outside. So make sure that you get in and do the quiz.

00:34:33:03 - 00:35:02:24
Lisa
So you can you can find that at Lisa Karnataka forward slash quiz. And that's it. That's what I got for you today. So I am still going to be debriefing all the amazing takeaways from being in that room. I'm still debriefing all the things that shifted for me because, you know, I think there are these moments where you really step into the identity that you want and you really let go of the parts of you that are no longer working.

00:35:02:24 - 00:35:17:25
Lisa
And this room was one of those moments for me. So thank you for being here. And, until next time, please take good care of you. Go over and take the Success Paradox quiz and I will catch you on next week's episode.